Sexual pressure, sexual desire, actually I think is short period satisfaction and often, that leads to more complication.
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Naturally as a human being ... some kind of desire for sex comes, but then you use human intelligence to make comprehension that those couples always full of trouble. And in some cases there is suicide, murder cases.
Don’t worry, my dear secularist readers, it was not the Pope who said this. It was Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama.
Why should your secularist readers be less alarmed by one religion rather than another. They are all the same to them...
ReplyDeleteHi Rob,
ReplyDeleteI really don't understand all this hype about religion(s). We see how it creates only problems and divisions around the world. I might be wrong, but no mass killing ever sprouted from secularists (or atheists) trying to impose their ideas. My position is that of Bertrand Russell (which in this respect was a follower of Lucretius).
PS
Tanto per tirare un po' d'acqua al sacro mulino romano (e greco, ovviamente) ;-)
Ciao (e senza polemica)
Your secularist friend
MoR
PS To StefanoC
ReplyDeleteMy comment of course confirms what you were saying, although frankly I do not think all religions are the same. In truth, and being an agnostic, I much prefer the religions born in India to the so-called Abrahamic religions.
All the best
@ StefanoC: Ok, er, I was joking, and you are definitely right ...
ReplyDelete@ Man of Roma:
"but no mass killing ever sprouted from secularists (or atheists) trying to impose their ideas"
Well, er, are you absolutely sure? Ah, you said also "I might be wrong" ... ;-)
P.S. What about my latest post?
P.S.
ReplyDelete@ StefanoC: of course you are right from your own point of view ...
Rob, of course I'm wrong. Just one example: communists in Cambodia (among the most terrifying examples).
ReplyDeleteAlthough, communism is nothing but a political religion and, in any case, I know what you mean.
Well, let me just say that I know you are also aware of what is called "The Reign of Terror" ... during the French Revolution:
ReplyDelete"The Committee of Public Safety came under the control of Maximilien Robespierre, a lawyer, and the Jacobins unleashed the Reign of Terror (1793-1794). According to archival records, at least 16,594 people died under the guillotine or otherwise after accusations of counter-revolutionary activities.[28] A number of historians note that as many as 40,000 accused prisoners may have been summarily executed without trial or died awaiting trial."
(Wikipedia)
As you can easily understand, no one is perfect ... ;-)
Of course nobody's perfect, and I told you I realised I was wrong. My first comment in any case was regarding the world of today, and I confess I fear a bit what has been foreseen by a few think-tanks around the world, that the future belongs more and more to religions. I surely hope for a different development in the minds of men (secular philosophy, science etc.).
ReplyDeleteIt is though a very complex topic that cannot be discussed in comment notes.
All the best
Ok, Man of Roma, I just wanted to make it clear for young people who might come across this post.
ReplyDeleteAs for the future, well, I think it's in God's hands ... ;-)
> I much prefer the religions born in India to the so-called Abrahamic religions.
ReplyDeleteI think we in the West have this romantic concept of India. Perhaps it started with the hippies, or the beats. We could chart it using the selling numbers of Hesse's Siddartha.
If fact, Indian religions didn't generate less violence or oppression of man over man than in Christian Europe (see for example the caste system).
Gandhi and the current Dalai Lama are no more representative of the average Hindi or Buddhist that S. Francis is of the average Christian.
StefanoC, I understand what you mean, and I can agree to a certain point about this romantic vision of India we have in the West.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I am concerned, well, I have a direct knowledge of India, some connections and went there many times (I am 60). I could add also that maybe half of my readers (and commentators) are Indians.
This inclination of mine didn't certainly come from readings like Hesse's Siddartha or from the Hippie movement, no, no lol.
I am agnostic and secularist, and what I think of ALL religions is expressed in this post of mine. Allow me to link to it for possible readers:
Religion, Fear, Power.
All the best
Man of Roma
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ReplyDeleteIn this other post, Buddhism, Science and the Dalai Lama, I explain from which perspective Buddhism, for example, can in my view be preferable to the the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I promise I'll stop promoting my blog for now ;-)
Amazing how a comment about sex lead to this discussion :-)Communist Russia, Communist China, and Nazi Germany to start. Stalin was responsible for about twenty million murders, and millions more imprisoned. Mao is estimated at sixty million murders, and millions more imprisoned. Hitler a mere estimated ten millions, and millions more imprisoned. Then there's the small time players, Pol Pot from 1975-1979 murdered about 20% of the Cambodian population, 1.5 to 2 million souls. That's a larger proportion of his population than either Stalin or Mao. By the way, these murders were done in peace time. Other murderous atheists and their regimes that were small time players, which have murdered millions, include Castro, Ceausescu, and Kim Jong-Il. More people, over one hundred million, in just the Twentieth Century, have been murdered, and more imprisoned, than in three thousand years of religious history. The total religious count for the Crusades, Inquisitions, witch burnings account for an estimated 200,000 people. That's hundred million to 200,000, atheist governments compared to religions. Unless you've gotten out of public school recently, the first number is bigger. My conclusion is that atheist governments are the most responsible for more murders, not religions.
ReplyDelete"The total religious count for the Crusades, Inquisitions, witch burnings account for an estimated 200,000 people."
ReplyDeleteFoolness.
Four milion (at least) died in Thierty Years War -a religious conflict AFAIK. War Rape was first used in Yugoslavian Wars by Serbian christian-orthodox soldiers on Muslim women. Paki-Hindu wars was quite deadly too.
And
So
On.
(I have to say thet the most impressive mass-murder in the history, Ginghiz Khan, was actualy christian, but he was moved by a non-theistic ideology).
Well said Steven, Thank you.
ReplyDeletepInkTalaxocracy, Genghis Kahn a Christian? Well, I don’t really think so …
“Genghis Khan's religion is widely speculated to be Shamanism or Tengriism, which was very likely among nomadic Mongol-Turkic tribes of Central Asia. But he was very tolerant religiously, and interested to learn philosophical and moral lessons from other religions. To do so, he consulted among others with Christian missionaries, Muslim merchants, and the Taoist monk Qiu Chuji. ”
Wikipedia
Even though it's true that
“Genghis Kahn was married to a Christian woman. One of the Khan's daughters-in-law, Sorkaktani, was a Nestorian Christian who became the mother of three great emperors, including Kublai Khan.”
see here
But that's another kettle of fish ...